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For ROTC involvement, faculty approves limited recognition

Published: Thursday, April 28, 2011

Updated: Friday, April 29, 2011 07:04


In a divided vote Wednesday, Arts, Sciences and Engineering (AS&E) faculty members chose to note the successful completion of the Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC) program on cadets' final transcripts.

The decision to recognize ROTC cadets' service was partially prompted by the December repeal of the policy barring openly homosexual individuals from military service, informally known as Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT), according to Dean of Academic Affairs for Arts and Sciences James Glaser.

The transcript proposal, which passed with 41 votes in favor and 29 against, was the first time faculty members had even debated issues regarding ROTC since 1969, when the campus ROTC program was ended during the Vietnam War, according to Glaser.

"I think this is an excellent outcome and a way for the university to recognize the importance of ROTC and the hard work and challenges that our students are engaging by participating in ROTC, as well as their really extraordinary public service," Glaser, who serves as the university's ROTC representative, said.

The measure, which was passed by the AS&E Educational Policy Committee (EPC) last month before being sent to a full faculty vote, is not retroactive and will only be noted on the transcripts of students graduating this semester and beyond.

The successful completion of the ROTC program will now be recorded in the notation section of students' transcripts, where other academic honors and extracurricular activities, such as internships, are recorded.

"We are not treating it differently from any other exceptional extracurricular activity or award," Glaser said, adding that the vote marked a step forward in the recognition of cadets' academic accomplishments.

"We were treating it differently by not including it," he said.

Another proposal calling for transcripts to note ROTC classes each semester as general participation, as opposed to in the notation section, failed overwhelmingly, according to Glaser.

According to that proposal, the ROTC course would have been listed similarly to how to those non−credit classes taken by students in the B.F.A. program and graduate students in Occupational Therapy appear on their transcripts.

Tufts cadets do not receive credit for the classes they take as part of ROTC, a majority of which they take at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

Glaser attributed opposition to the second, failed proposal to an amendment tagged on to it at the previous faculty meeting. The amendment would have granted students who wanted to remove the notation from their transcript the ability to request it. There was a fear that this would start an unwanted precedent of altering transcripts, he said.

"Many people feared that it would lead to a legitimization of removing things from the transcript," he added.

Associate Professor of Political Science Malik Mufti voted for the failed resolution despite these concerns, he said.

"I thought the more explicit the recognition of ROTC the better, but I didn't feel as strongly about this proposal as I did the first, and it went down pretty one−sidedly,"

Tufts Community Union (TCU) President Sam Wallis, who supported a Senate resolution that passed last month calling for the implementation of both proposals, acknowledged that the amendment regarding removal of the notation could diminish the integrity of students' transcripts. He was, however, disappointed that the second proposal did not pass.

"I don't think it was framed correctly," Wallis, a senior, said. "I don't think all the faculty who voted on it had a full understanding of the implications of the proposal."

The approved proposal cited a desire to demonstrate the university's support for the national DADT repeal.

"There is no question this happened because of the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell and President Barack Obama's request that universities rethink their position on ROTC," Mufti said.

Professor of Physics and Astronomy Gary Goldstein voted against both proposals. He said that while Congress did pass a law repealing DADT at the end of last year, he is skeptical the military will actually change its policies.

"Don't Ask, Don't Tell is still in effect; it hasn't been changed and given the current culture in the Congress, it's likely it won't be changed," Goldstein said. "We have inadvertently supported, by putting on our students' transcripts, a discriminatory program."

Many proponents of the successful proposal said that the notation of ROTC participation on cadets' transcripts provided due recognition of the public service commitment made by those preparing to serve in the military.

"I voted in favor of it because I felt that as an institution that prides itself on engaged citizenship, we should acknowledge one of the noblest forms of public service," Mufti said.

Goldstein disagreed, noting a fundamental difference between his definition of public service, and that of some of his colleagues.

"[Military service] is hardly public service as we usually know the meaning of public service," Goldstein said. "Especially at Tufts, where we have the Tisch College of Active Citizenship, to call ROTC and the military engaging in public service is to do a disservice to the ethical standards embodied in the words ‘public service.'"

Those in favor of the second proposal argued that putting ROTC participation on cadets' transcripts each semester alongside their Tufts classes makes potential employers, for example, aware that the student is simultaneously engaged in other ROTC coursework, according to Wallis.

"It puts Tufts courses in the context of the other two [ROTC] courses the guys are taking," Wallis said.

Goldstein noted that as Tufts does not grant academic standing in its curriculum to courses taken through ROTC, they have no place on students' transcripts.

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Anonymous
Mon May 16 2011 00:27
Goldstein sounds like a f@$*ing idiot. So glad the Source ripped him a new one, several times over
emmmm
Wed May 11 2011 13:03
Yeah maybe we should make jokes about killing people that disagree with us. That'll change their opinions of the military.
bill46
Tue May 3 2011 02:17
correction: those that CAN"T measure up with the best just devalue others to feel good about themselves.
bill46
Tue May 3 2011 02:15
hilarious that goldstein thinks he is so high and mighty...what an absolute loser. what did he ever do outside of write some papers on star trek or some useless astronomy theory. those who can measure up with the best just devalue others to feel good about themselves.

maybe those navy SEALs can swing by goldy's and 28 other offices this week. i'd call that a great public service!

alumni2010
Fri Apr 29 2011 17:37
i would add that many people involved with the Tisch College (including myself as an undergraduate) that Gary uses as the highest example of public service at Tufts are supporters of the military and that the College itself supports programs and clubs who use their energy and money to support our men and women in the service. What gives Gary (he's certainly not MY professor) the right to disparage people in this way? This is not something to be overlooked, this man should be called to task for saying such ridiculous and naive things. Is this who we want teaching us at Tufts?
Mhawley
Fri Apr 29 2011 13:02
"[Military service] is hardly public service as we usually know the meaning of public service". Who is 'we' in this sentence? Aside from senescent marxists who've been shielded from reality their entire lives by academic tenure, we all do consider military service one of the very highest forms of public service. Speak for yourself Goldstein.
Charles Finn
Fri Apr 29 2011 11:42
Professor Goldstein's comments are nothing short of disgusting. CPT Benjamin Sklaver, a Tufts alum, was killed only two years ago while trying to bring water wells and enhanced infrastructure to an Afghan village. Another alum, LT Chris Ocasio, is currently commanding a platoon in and around Kabul delivering supplies for children. More are getting ready to deploy in a few months time, and look forward to helping restore order and stability in the region. As a cadet at Tufts, I have received total support from my fellow students. Some members of the faculty, however, still seem to be living in a Vietnam-era mindset. Goldstein should stick to physics.
Charles Finn
Fri Apr 29 2011 11:14
Professor Goldstein's comments are nothing short of disgusting. CPT Benjamin Sklaver, a Tufts alum, was killed only two years ago while trying to bring water wells and enhanced infrastructure to an Afghan village. Another alum, LT Chris Ocasio, is currently commanding a platoon in and around Kabul delivering supplies for children. More are getting ready to deploy in a few months time, and look forward to helping restore order and stability in the region. As a cadet at Tufts, I have received total support from my fellow students. Some members of the faculty, however, still seem to be living in a Vietnam-era mindset. Goldstein should stick to physics.
dailycorrections
Fri Apr 29 2011 10:55
Pay tell Prof. Goldstein, what are the standards of public service? Where do you draw the line? Do you count diplomats, or do they not meet your ethical definition? Does pubic service only count for NGOs? Domestic gov't employees?

Last time I checked, soldiers received their paycheck from Uncle Sam. Last time I checked, that's public service.

Charles Finn
Fri Apr 29 2011 10:24
Professor Goldstein's comments are nothing short of disgusting. CPT Benjamin Sklaver, a Tufts alum, was killed only two years ago while trying to bring water wells and enhanced infrastructure to an Afghan village. Another alum, LT Chris Ocasio, is currently commanding a platoon in and around Kabul delivering supplies for children. More are getting ready to deploy in a few months time, and look forward to helping restore order and stability in the region. As a cadet at Tufts, I have received total support from my fellow students. Some members of the faculty, however, still seem to be living in a Vietnam-era mindset. Goldstein should stick to physics.
alumni2010
Fri Apr 29 2011 09:39
"[Military service] is hardly public service as we usually know the meaning of public service," Goldstein said. "Especially at Tufts, where we have the Tisch College of Active Citizenship, to call ROTC and the military engaging in public service is to do a disservice to the ethical standards embodied in the words ���public service.'

because being a physics professor is so noble? give me a break. what a jerk.

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