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TCU Senate approves funding for Trips Cabin construction

By Ben Gittleson

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Published: Monday, April 6, 2009

Updated: Monday, April 6, 2009

Senate Meeting

Dilys Ong / Tufts Daily

Tufts Community Union senators approved $230,000 in funding last night for a supplemental building to be constructed at the Loj in New Hampshire.

    The Tufts Community Union (TCU) Senate approved $230,000 in funding last night to go toward a Trips Cabin to be constructed alongside the Tufts Mountain Club’s (TMC) Loj in North Woodstock, N.H.
    The body voted 20-5 in favor of allocating money from the TCU recovered funds to the project, which will involve building a small structure that will sleep around 30 people who desire quieter nighttime accommodations at the Tufts-owned, TMC-operated Loj property.
    The cost for the cabin could hit a maximum of $237,500, and TMC has already raised $11,854 for the project from members and alumni. At minimum, it may cost around $200,000; TMC plans to repay the Senate any unused funds if the project ends up below the current budget.
    “We’ve been trying so long to get this, and it was amazing to see all our time and effort come to fruition,” TMC President Katie Bond, a junior, told the Daily last night.
    The disbursement of the funds includes a stipulation that TMC lower its prices for the weekend retreat center, which is open to all undergraduate Tufts students and groups but which is discounted for TMC members. As a result, certain costs for individuals, groups and TMC members will drop by $5.
    “We want to keep our prices down, we want more people to come up, and Senate wanted that as well,” Bond said.
    The debate at yesterday’s meeting centered on the merits of funding such a large expenditure — the costliest of this academic year — when the extent to which the student body at large would benefit from an off-campus structure located a two-hour drive from campus remained unclear.
    But TMC plans to launch a publicity campaign centered around the Loj in the fall. Last night, members of the group’s executive board also pledged to make rides to the property much more accessible.
    “Right now, it’s kind of a free-for-all getting up to the Loj,” TMC Vice President Brian Gilling, a sophomore who is also the director of the Trips Cabin project, told the Daily. “[Members of the Senate] want us to make a procedure for everyone to get up and enjoy it.”
    The Trips Cabin has been two years in the making as a way to expand the Loj and open it up to more undergraduates.
    Last fall, TMC members launched a campaign supporting spending part of the recovered funds on the project. The project came before the Senate then, but was shelved when the administration indicated that it would loan money to the Senate to fund the expansion on the Loj property.
    But the economic downturn dashed those plans, and the Senate did not take up the issue of the Trips Cabin again before reaching a decision on the disbursement of the recovered funds. In December, the body voted to use $300,000 of the recovered funds to create an endowment that would support student activities, channel $87,780 to student groups through the Allocations Board and put $300,000 into a savings account. It was the latter funds on which last night’s allocation focused.
    Senator Dan Pasternack, a sophomore, spearheaded the effort to bring the Trips Cabin project before the Senate again. He said that the issue deserved to be brought before the Senate when the body had a significant amount of money that could be disbursed.
    “I figured it was something that was important to TMC and, more importantly, was important to the Tufts community, and that several people on Senate stated that as one of their objectives for this year,” he told the Daily after last night’s meeting. “I figured it would only be right for it to at least be heard in Senate.”
    Senator Chas Morrison, a sophomore, voted against last night’s project. While he supports the Trips Cabin, he said that the Senate should have waited for the administration to help out with the project — something he said administrators had indicated they might do.
    “In my mind, the debate was whether building the Trips Cabin now as opposed to in the near future was worth not [being] able to put this money toward expenditures such as increased wireless or renovations to the campus center,” he told the Daily after the vote.
    Gilling said ground can be broken as soon as the earth at the property thaws enough. The cabin could be completed as early as one and a half months from now, and at latest by the start of the fall semester.
 

Comments

61 comments
Your name
Wed Apr 15 2009 19:41
Can someone please tell me if there is anyway to reverse Senate's horrible decision? Maybe if certain senators could get over their ego's they could see that the majority of campus is truly unhappy with this decision.
Your name
Thu Apr 9 2009 14:36
Actually the comment states: largest group with paying members who are heavily involved. Still false? Think again. TMC is also unfunded, the members support the entire group. See its important to read everything.
Your name
Thu Apr 9 2009 05:47
Someone a little while down wrote that TMC is largest group on campus, that is definitely false.
Your name
Wed Apr 8 2009 09:01
I don't understand why the TMC is supposed to define the average Tufts student's "outdoor experience." There are plenty of wonderful places within, I dunno, Western Massachusetts and Vermont, too. This money could've gone to a fund that enables students to take nature trips to decompress wherever they felt or even something slightly closer to home to allow for greater access if the TMC's most urgent concern is that of providing community service through hikin' and hangin' out, but it didn't-- it went to their digs (and a free retreat for the senate, too!). I mean, if the Loj has more space, maybe even more folks will end up using it on a regular basis, and then--oh no!-- it will be crowded once more. Will it need another quarter million dollars then? Hey, Tufts kids, you've been played!

And Katie Bond, there's nothing wrong with "political posts." Just because it hurts to know that your community is against you, it doesn't mean you can dismiss that community's opinions.

parent
Tue Apr 7 2009 20:58
As a parent of a Tufts student, I must say that I am not too fond of the naked in the woods part. However, I have visited the loj with my child. What I saw was a group of fully clothed students enjoying some social down time with their friends. It was a casual community of students cooking and hiking together and just relaxing in a rustic cabin lodge. I think it is a wonderful getaway to take in nature and form lasting relationships. It has sport equipment and people eager to have you join them in their outdoor adventure. Getting off campus to the loj is a fantastic stress reducer, with little cost and great camaraderie. I also know that the club offers carpools or rides in their van. More students should include a trip to the woods in their college experience.
Your name
Tue Apr 7 2009 16:11
What is it about Tufts that makes achieving modest wireless coverage so hilariously expensive?
An objective view
Tue Apr 7 2009 15:14
Some facts:

1. Any TCU Group can request money from the TCU Recovered Funds. Many groups have already done this over the course of the past semester--and there is still money remaining in this fund. Increased programming, more publication issues? Already funded. There's still money left in this fund.

2. A wireless campus costs well over a million dollars. And the University has recognized the need for it and is in fact slowly implementing wireless internet coverage. Additionally, wireless internet requires a recurring maintenance cost each year, meaning if the Senate funded it now, four years later everything would be dead. Funding wireless is not a sustainable project.

3. Although $230,000 is a huge sum of money, believe it or not, there's still more than that left in the TCU Surplus. Have something you'd like to see funded? Email your ideas to tcusenate@tufts.edu or contact a Senator.

4. No matter what the decision made by the Senate, there would be widespread criticism. People love to bash their government. Always have, always will.

5. TCU Senate meetings are open to the public. If you had strong thoughts in approval or disapproval of this project, why are you waiting now to express them? Oops.

6. The Campus Center renovation has a funding plan in place. Architects are drawing up plans as I write.

Your name
Tue Apr 7 2009 13:44
Pretty sure LCS and TDC are the largest groups on campus.......

Regardless, it's absolutely ridiculous that a single student group is allocated almost a quarter million dollars when the debate team's request for $7000 to go to nationals and Torn Ticket II's request for $15,000 to repair Cohen auditorium's failing sound system were both declined.

Your name
Tue Apr 7 2009 13:12
Our elected leaders will gain that faith when they behave in a manner that earns it. How could you think this was the most appropriate use for *our* money?
Katie Bond
Tue Apr 7 2009 12:36
The plans were professionally drafted. Like all Tufts buildings, Facilities is in charge of all the planning and coordination. A private company was contracted last March for the feasibility study (funded by the administration), and all estimates and costs come from that company.
For more information on the history and development of this project, check out www.tuftstripscabin.org.
It wouldn't hurt to have a little more faith in the competency of your elected leaders.
Your name
Tue Apr 7 2009 12:31
I go to NYU and I even use the Loj.
Senior
Tue Apr 7 2009 11:49
"The cost for the cabin could hit a maximum of $237,500, and TMC has already raised $11,854 for the project from members and alumni. At minimum, it may cost around $200,000"

There is only about $30,000 in wiggle room? That is just stupid. Where did these estimate comes from anyway? Real blue prints and professional estimates cost thousands of dollars and I wonder if anyone performed due diligence before allocating a quarter of a million dollars. I'd would guess not. Senate is worthless.

Jake
Tue Apr 7 2009 08:45
I don't understand what sort of estimate the senate is using to deny the campus modest wireless network expansion. I work in the industry, and while it wouldn't be cheap, it would come nowhere near $230,000.
Shawna Russo
Tue Apr 7 2009 01:24
I am one of the five senators who voted against this (and the only one who will put my name on my post). I felt that some people feel very uncomfortable with the whole "let's be naked, everything goes" vibe at the Loj. It can be very exclusive and discourage people from going to the Loj. I felt that my constituents would rather see this money go to something else on-campus that can benefit every Tufts student like wireless or Campus Center renovations. It is true that wireless would cost more than what we gave to the TMC, and that the administration refused to give money to this project, but I felt that this money should have gone to on-campus expenditures.
Julie
Tue Apr 7 2009 00:40
" $230,000 dollars to enable more rich naked people who already have a car in college to run around in the woods. best investment ever. "

I would tend to disagree with the above statement. I am a member of TMC board and have just taken out some hefty loans to help me pay for college and will never have a car here. Woodstock is perfectly accessible to someone willing to take public transportation and many people carpool to our Loj.

While TMC is the largest group on campus and that is a valid argument for this expenditure, it is important to consider the people who are coming up to the Loj not just to "frolic naked." Many student groups and sports teams employ our lodgings, hosted by capable group members in our cramped building. More of these groups would enjoy the Loj if we had enough room to accommodate them, currently student groups are getting turned away because our weekends are so tightly booked.

It is unfortunate that some think that this money would only go towards TMC. That special treatment would make me angry too, but the reality is that this extra structure on the Loj's property not only allows us to host more Tufts students, it is coming with more community outreach strings attached.

For those of you who think we are "a bunch of privileged nitwits," I invite you to think twice and actually talk to a TMCer. I can think of many people whose experience with TMC has changed their mind about transferring from this school and I have never found a kinder group of strangers than the club members I encountered at the beginning of my freshman year.

JKA
Tue Apr 7 2009 00:39
Did they vote before or after they pulled out the booze? Far from Pickard's "Complete Plan," the Senate has reversed course since November when it initially shot down the Trips Cabin. They should have maintained that stance. 1/3 of the Recovered Funds, 2/3 of the portion that is liquid going to one student group is unconscionable.
Your name
Mon Apr 6 2009 23:59
According to a Senator friend of mine, a role call vote was taken for this. Therefore the Senators should be expected to be called out on how they voted. Plain and simple. If you don't want backlash from the people you represent then vote how they'd vote!
Your name
Mon Apr 6 2009 23:56
The no votes were as follows:

3 seniors: Christine Mumma, Shawna Russo, and Antonella Scarano

1 sophomore: Chas Morrison

1 freshman: Elliott McCarthy

These are confirmed facts. I've been told that Elliott will be having an op-ed it tomorrow's Daily about this.

Your name
Mon Apr 6 2009 22:59
Gym *equipment* would not be way too expensive. Have you seen the state of the weight machines? Sheesh.

And I'm sorry, but expanding wireless coverage to at least the residential sites on campus would not run close to what has been implied. If the Senate/University lack the technical know-how to make this happen, that's another matter entirely.

African Boy
Mon Apr 6 2009 22:13
What a bunch of privileged nitwits!!! How can Tufts give money to TMC and ignore the rest of the community. As an African student at Tufts, I am yet to make my way to the Tufts Loj for fun and frolicks with the Tufts Mountain Club. I am extremely disheartened by the Senate's decision to award all this money to one organization. Tufts never ceases to amaze me!! President Duncan, any comments?






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