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The Gentlemen's Bet backs out of Spring Fling

By Catherine Scott

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Published: Wednesday, April 8, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, April 8, 2009

Gentlemen's Bet

Jo Duara / Tufts Daily

The Gentlemen’s Bet accused Concert Board of politicizing the choice for Spring Fling side stage.

The student band The Gentlemen's Bet will not play Spring Fling due to a disagreement with Concert Board, the band announced this weekend.

Concert Board had guaranteed The Gentlemen's Bet a slot at Spring Fling, to be held on April 25, after the band won second place in late February at the ROCKUS Battle of the Bands, an event that student radio station WMFO assisted in running. The board had turned to The Gentlemen's Bet when the hip-hop quartet FunkSoulLove, which had won the ROCKUS battle, elected not to play at Spring Fling.

The Gentlemen's Bet believes that Concert Board promised it the side stage, which would mean that it would play throughout the day at Spring Fling. But Concert Board maintains that it said only that The Gentlemen's Bet could play at Spring Fling, without specifying an act.

Instead, Concert Board had decided, The Gentlemen's Bet would have played on the main stage, as the opening band. That band typically plays around 12 p.m., before the major acts begin and before much of the Spring Fling crowd shows up.

The disagreement between Concert Board and The Gentlemen's Bet began when Concert Board Co-Chairs Rob Seiden and Alan Munkacsy, both juniors, announced at the Saturday night Battle of the Bands sponsored by Concert Board that the student band The Ride would play on the side stage at Spring Fling. The Ride obtained the side stage spot by winning the weekend contest.

"We had talked to [The Gentlemen's Bet] and said that there was always a possibility that they would play the side stage, but no promises were made," Munkacsy said.

But Andrew Lappin, a member of The Gentlemen's Bet, said that the Concert Board co-chairs had originally promised his band the side stage; the group on the side stage plays during set changes that occur periodically throughout Spring Fling.

"We kind of got our hearts set on playing the side stage," said Lappin, a senior.

The band Brennivín, the second-place finisher at Saturday's Battle of the Bands, will take over the main-stage opening act from The Gentlemen's Bet.

Lappin and Munkacsy both agree, though, that Concert Board never promised the side stage to The Gentlemen's Bet. But Lappin said the dispute arose when Concert Board prevented The Gentlemen's Bet from participating in Saturday's Battle of the Bands -- the winner of which was to get the chance to play the side stage.

"We thought that it was a little unfair that we were excluded from playing in the Tufts Battle of the Bands," Lappin said. "We asked if we could perform to stake our claim for the side stage, but [Concert Board] said no. Then we asked if we could play for fun, and they said no to that also."

Munkacsy denied banning The Gentlemen's Bet from playing in Concert Board's Battle of the Bands. Seiden did not return repeated phone calls and e-mail messages requesting comment.

But WMFO General Manager Drew Frankel said Concert Board did prohibit The Gentlemen's Bet from playing in Saturday's Battle of the Bands. Still, he said that he backed the Concert Board's decision to prevent The Gentlemen's Bet to compete over the weekend, as the band had already secured a spot for Spring Fling.

Munkacsy said that there is a significant difference in the number of concertgoers for the two acts.

"The side-stage band helps to streamline the show and make it seem less segmented," Munkacsy said. "Gentlemen's Bet would have played for about 300 people [as the opening act on the main stage]. If they had done the side stage, that would have been the full Tufts crowd. We're expecting about 4,000 people."

The Gentlemen's Bet backed out of Spring Fling altogether upon discovering that it would not be playing the side stage.

Munkacsy said Concert Board made the decision to ask The Ride to play on the side stage fairly. Both he and Seiden decided which band would obtain the side stage slot directly after The Ride won Saturday night's battle.

"Battle of the Bands was a Concert Board-sponsored event, and WMFO did their own Battle of the Bands," Munkacsy said. "From some end, because it was our event, we felt slightly more loyal to the winners of the [Concert Board-sponsored] event."

Lappin said the band was disappointed with the Concert Board's decisions.

"It seems unfair and political. Music shouldn't be political in terms of competing," Lappin said, adding that it seemed the Concert Board had chosen The Ride for the side stage because that band had won a Concert Board-sponsored event. "We felt that it was best to distance ourselves from the whole thing."

Frankel, a senior, emphasized the prestige that any student band receives by playing at Spring Fling.

"In the end, the opportunity to play at Spring Fling isn't something any Tufts band should turn down without a really good reason," Frankel told the Daily in an e-mail. "It's about playing on a big stage, with big acts, on a big day for Tufts."

The Gentlemen's Bet has been playing at Tufts for four years and has recorded two albums, Lappin said.

He added the band is serious about its future despite turning down Tufts' biggest concert of the year.

"The band is in the middle of throwing ourselves forward into a career," he said. "We're about to go on tour over the summer, and we just came off a full-length album."

The side stage, Lappin said, would have helped improve the band's popularity.

"We wanted a shot at it because we have been playing local clubs and building our fan base," he said.

Meanwhile, junior George Nagel -- a member of Brennivín, the band chosen to replace The Gentlemen's Bet as the opening act -- expressed a lot of excitement at the opportunity to play at Spring Fling.

"We were happy just having played our show at Battle of the Bands. Getting second place was icing on the cake," Nagel said. "To play Spring Fling, we're totally excited about it. It's a huge deal for us."

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17 comments

John Elway
Wed Aug 5 2009 03:26
The Gentlemen's bet was given a spot at Spring Fling for an event that is not sponsored, nor affiliated with Concert Board in any way. As far as I know, which is a considerable amount about how Concert Board is run, this is the first time that a band has been given the opportunity to play at Spring Fling without winning a Concert Board sponsored event. The decision of which band would play lies in the hands of the Concert Board Co-Chairs. The fact that the band pulled out of Spring Fling is EXTREMELY UNPROFESSIONAL. While I do agree that the situation should have been handled better by the Concert Board Co-chairs, I do think that the fault here lies with the band.
Your name
Sat Apr 25 2009 12:41
By preventing the Gentlemen's Bet from competing for the side stage spot you have manged to snub the best band that has ever come out of Tufts. Yes, and I am not a Tufts student but a music professional.
Your name
Sat Apr 11 2009 15:42
which is why it seems that everybody who knows how to run any sort of legitimate party at tufts (primarily greek life) has had navigator as their first choice in a band for something like the past two years. everytime i see the act, navigator has returning, avid, enthusiastic fans screaming for them in a way that the gentlemen could never even dream of (ie rockus). ya good luck going on tour this summer guys if you can't even get a crew of your friends to be pumped up to see your show ten minutes away from your own school
Your name
Fri Apr 10 2009 12:56
Navigator is arguably the worst band at tufts and among the worst bands I have ever heard. Pop punk with terrible singing...no thanks.
Bang Bang Bang
Thu Apr 9 2009 19:08
I was at Rockus and the Bet played an incredibly boring show. Then Navigator came along and blew everyone away. My face melted when I saw them. I was very surprised they didn't win the whole thing, and I'm even more surprised that Navigator wasn't even chosen to play at the Hotung Battle of the Bands. If there is any band that deserves playing Spring Fling it's Navigator. Now we're stuck with two crummy, inexperienced bands that lack any sort of a following. Well done Concert Board.
virginia
Thu Apr 9 2009 13:16
Has anyone heard the gentlemens bet debut album? Its really excellent and I'd say its the best album a tufts band has put out. Granted, I think guster sucks. So I'm excluding them from consideration.

And as far as this whole spring fling deal is concerned, concert board has set such a bad precedent the past few years that the day isn't even about the music. I understand why the gentlemens bet don't wanna play...no one cares about the music.

Tufts concert board has a lot to learn from brown's concert association.

Your name
Thu Apr 9 2009 02:20
if anybody actually attended rockus as i did they would have noticed that the most popular band at tufts with the biggest tufts fan base (except for arguably funksoullove) is without a doubt navigator despite their lack of respect for being primarily a frat party band (no offense guys). i am confused about why they haven't been offered a spot in all of this. as i know many greek life members and frat party goers would agree they could blow away all of these acts.
Gentlemen's Bet is ridiculous
Thu Apr 9 2009 01:42
Concert Board was being nice by giving the WMFO SECOND PLACE band a spot at Fling.
Your name
Wed Apr 8 2009 22:36
are we forgetting that the gentlemen's bet didn't win ruckus to begin with? if funksoullove hadn't backed out of playing spring fling, gent's bet never would have been handed the opportunity to play it. so why are they whining over stages when, if things had worked out the way they were planned, gent's bet wouldn't be on either stage. there's something to be said for being grateful.
Alyce C
Wed Apr 8 2009 19:33
WMFO was in charge of the Rockus battle (which was actually put together by the Harvard record label). Concert Board plans Spring Fling AND the Tufts battle of the bands, so of course their winner would get preferential treatment: traditionally, the CB battle winner plays battle of the bands, and Rockus is a new factor that offered numerous other incentives for the winners. I mean, it would have been nice if the winner of the Rockus battle could have competed in the CB battle of the bands, and I think the Gentlemen's Bet are awesome, but what's done is done.

And in regards to all the anti-CB comments: sure, Concert Board could use some more organization at times, but these were not arbitrary decisions. If anyone takes issue with Concert Board's selection of bands or any other decisions like this one then maybe you should attend the meetings and express your opinions, as well as see WHY these decisions are made - the meetings are open to everyone, you know. Once you've attended the meetings, as excruciating as they can sometimes be, you realize that there are a lot of extenuating circumstances that contribute to determining who plays. For example, Asher Roth was essentially a package deal with Luda, and a lot of acts couldn't come because they were already touring, don't play colleges, were too expensive, etc. People just love to complain. Half of you will probably be throwing back shots in your rooms during Asher Roth's set anyway, since when do people care this much about the act that plays at like 1pm?

conor L
Wed Apr 8 2009 16:14
I agree...the gentlemens bet handled themselves well. They work hard and gig constantly. They deserved that slot more than any tufts band. They would probably be the best band at spring fling. I support local music and support the bet
Your name
Wed Apr 8 2009 14:55
While concert board definitely has some work to do, this is in now way their fault. Had the Gentlemen's Bet competed in and won the CB battle, they still would not have been given the option of which stage to play. The decision, from the beginning, was to be made by the co-chairs of Concert Board.

Pulling out now is extremely unprofessional. For a band that's looking to start a "career", here's some advice: at this stage in the game, you don't back out of a show because you didn't get your way. The Gentlemen's Bet were never promised the side stage, nor are they any more deserving of it than the other bands. They got their hopes up, but it was explicit from the beginning that decision was in the hands of the Concert Board co-chairs, so quit whining.

tufts alum
Wed Apr 8 2009 14:35
as an alum, i've always enjoyed coming back for spring fling. i'd say no more than 50% of the time has it ever been about the music though. concert board is consistently inconsistent in selecting quality acts for spring fling, whether it is headliners, opening acts, or the tufts bands that play.

i think the gentlemen's bet handled themselves very well here and are just making the point that concert board is terrible. brutal. cmon, asher roth? what is this?

Criss
Wed Apr 8 2009 10:57
I agree with the gent's bet on this one too, though I do like Concert board's choice of the decemberists. But asher roth, that's lame.
Jimmy James
Wed Apr 8 2009 10:18
Concert board is one of the most mismanaged and poorly run organizations on campus...they eat up hundreds of thousands of dollars and put on crap events every year. Smoove move, guys! Keep up the good work!
Rocco
Wed Apr 8 2009 09:26
Concert Board is definitely a mess. And it's a shame, The gentlemen's bet are a wonderful live band. Saw them at PAs Lounge last friday and they were awesome!
Devil's Advocate
Wed Apr 8 2009 08:59
More evidence that Concert Board is poorly managed and needs an infrastructure overhaul... as if we needed anymore.






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